6大关于库尔斯克战役的常见误区和错误

发布时间:2021-10-12 发表于话题:库尔斯克会战 点击:55 当前位置:黄埔网 > 军事 > 陆军 > 6大关于库尔斯克战役的常见误区和错误 手机阅读

6. 推迟计划是为了等更多的新式坦克

6.The plan was delayed to wait for more new tanks

各种各样的军盲、书籍和纪录片经常说道;希特勒推迟计划是为了等更多的新式坦克。

All kinds of Military idiots、books and documentary films always said that;Hitler delayed the plan was for to wait for more new tanks。

但是,事实上,新式坦克交付部队并磨合形成战斗力只是堡垒计划推迟的一个原因


But,in fact The delivery of the new tanks to the army and the formation of combat effectiveness is just one reason why the fortress plan has been delayed。

希特勒一直在打与不打之间徘徊?

Hitler has been hesitating between fighting and not fighting

Hitler lingered between fighting and not fighting

希特勒一直在打与不打之间徘徊,他十分清楚库尓斯克战役对于德军乃至第三帝国的重要意义,不敢轻易出手

Hitler lingered between fighting and not fighting.He was well aware of the significance of the Battle of Kursk to the German army and the third Reich, and did not dare to act lightly.

他也曾向古德里安表示过他对这个计划“感到反胃”,所以延迟计划是因为希特勒的犹豫不决而非一开始就下定决心要打只是为了等新装甲车辆而推迟进攻。

He had also told Guderian that he was "sick" of the plan。so The delay was due to Hitler's indecision  Instead of making up his mind to fight in the first place, just to wait for new panzer to delay the attack.、

如果希特勒下定决心决定去打,就算是他只有3号和4号也会立刻进攻的。。。。。

If Hitler decide to attack ,He will do it although he has only PZIII and PZIV would attack at once.

5. 库尔斯克战役的每个德军装甲师都装备了新式战车

Every German panzer division at the Battle of Kursk was e with new combat vehicles

事实上,库尔斯克战役时,德军只有4个装甲掷弹兵师(羽林、帝国、骷髅、大德)有一个连的虎式坦克,以及第503和505重装甲营一共75辆虎式坦克

In fact,at that time,only four Panzergrenadier division(LSSAH、DR、T、GD)had one company’s tiger tanks , and No.503th 、No.505th heavy panzer battalions’s 75 tiger tanks

第39装甲团有200辆豹d(虽然因为故障,每天只有几十辆坦克能够战斗)、

39th panzer Regiment had 200 Panther type D tanks、(because of the malfunction,only a few dozen tanks a day can join the battle )

653、654重坦克歼击营有费迪南坦克歼击车。。。。。。第216突击炮营有灰熊

No.653rd、No.654th heavy Jagdpanzer battalions had Ferdinand tank destroyers(panzerjager)......No. 216th Sturmpanzer battalion had brummbar Sturmpanzers




对几乎所有的装甲师来说,当时拥有的最好的坦克是PZIII和PZIV,

For Almost all of the panzer divisions ,the best tanks at the time they had were PZIII and PZIV

甚至将近每一个装甲师还装备了少量(10辆左右)轻坦。比如2号、38t这种轻坦

Even nearly every armored division was e with a small amount (about 10vehicles)light tanks like PZII or PzKpfw 38(t)

德军从来没有让每一个装甲师都有豹式坦克,虎式和费迪南可想而知

Germans never let every armored division had Panther tanks.Tiger and Ferdinand goes without saying。

当然德军有把重装甲营加强给装甲师的做法,战果通常不错

比如第5装甲师在巴格拉季昂行动中

Of course, the German army strengthened the heavy panzer battalion to the panzer division,and it usually got a good result。Like the 5th panzer Division in Operation Bagration.

虎式坦克自不用说Not to mention tiger tanks Tiger tank goes without saying

4. 战役中德军装备了800辆虎式坦克

The German army were e with 800 tiger tanks at the battle

事实上,这句话,可能来自于苏联电影《解放》

In fact,this sentence may have came from the Soviet film "Emancipation."

这种老片子在当时那个年代。。。。。。还用我说吗?当然那个时代都是这个风格的,我觉得挺好的.不应该批评过多虽然我不太喜欢俄国

These old films were in those days. 。。。。。。You think it need me said? Of course, that era is this style, I think it’s very good. It shouldn't have been criticized too much.Although I don’like russia very much

整个库尔斯克战役,德军总共才投入130辆虎式坦克而已,还有89辆费迪南、45辆灰熊、200辆豹式坦克

Throughout the Kursk campaign, the German army had invested only 130 Tiger tanks,  89 Ferdinand tanks, 45 brummbar tanks and 200 Panther tanks.

在二战中,德军虎式坦克数量最多时,不过所有战线一共653辆虎式坦克而已。。。。。。

不是只有东部战线。好多时候,许多4号坦克被误认为虎式坦克。

German Tiger tanks were the largest number in World War II, but there were 653 Tiger tanks on all fronts.not only east front line.Many times, many panzer4 are mistaken for tiger tanks。

3.莫德尔的进攻在48小时内宣告失败

3.Model's attack failed in 48 hours.

《决战库尔斯克》和《苏德战争》等书中经常出现这种可笑的说法

Such ridiculous claims are often found in books such as Kursk and the Soviet-German War.

虽然莫德尔素有菜鸟公司垃圾桶和莫不攻的绰号,他的进攻也心不在焉,并遭受了巨大的损失。

Although Model is known as the rookie company dustbin and Model never attack.

His attack was absent-minded.And suffered heavy losses

莫德尔在进攻第一天只使用一个装甲师(PZ20D)和九个步兵师的做法收到诟病,而且进展不大

Model was criticized for using only one 20th panzer division And nine infantry divisionson the first day of the attack, And progress has been very small





莫德尔的第9集团军于1943年7月5日凌晨发动攻势,直到苏军7月12日在奥廖尔发动反攻才停止了攻势

Model's 9th Army launched its offensive in the early hours of July 5, 1943, The offensive was not stopped until the Soviet counteroffensive was launched in Olive on July 12

虽然莫德尔的进攻很是失败,但莫德尔的进攻在48小时内宣告失败是错误的

Although Model's attack was a failure, it was wrong for Model's attack to fail within 48 hours.

2. 西西里的危局使希特勒调走了党卫军第2装甲军,导致计划失败

The Sicilian crisis led Hitler transfer the entire SS 2rd panzer group ,Cause the plan failed

事实上,希特勒原先的确准备调走整个党卫军第2装甲军的,

In fact, Hitler did intend to transfer the entire SS 2rd Panzer group.

但因为17日位于南方集团军群南翼的米乌斯河地区形势吃紧,所以最后只走了军部和警卫旗队师的全部人员(重装备留下来)

But because of the tight situation in the Mius River region on the southern wing of the Southern Army Group on the Jul17th, it ended up leaving all the personnel of the military head and the LSSAH Division (heavy e stay).

战至17日,德军在南线实际上已希望不大,在13日德军设定的三个目标:歼灭69集团军(第48军)、歼灭第5近卫坦克集团军团以及占领普罗霍罗夫卡,但一个都没有成功,

Fight to Jul17th, the German army actually had little hope on the southern front. On the Jul13th the German army set three goals: annihilating the 69th Army (48th Army), annihilating the 5th Guards Tank army, and occupying Prokhorov card.But none of it success.

部队损耗也相当大,党卫军第2装甲军仅余175辆坦克可用,再打去不会有什么进展,

The army’s loss was also quite high. SS 2rd panzer group only had175tanks could fight,There won't be any progress if they keep attack.

再加上苏军已经在奥廖尔、北顿涅茨河及米乌斯河展开进攻,所以希特勒才中止了进攻

And the Soviet army attacked in Orel, the North Donetz and the Mius, that’s  why Hitler stopped the attack.

1. 7月12日普罗霍洛夫卡那些事情

1 .Fields in Proholovka Jul12th

普罗霍洛夫卡的争议和误区足够我再做一期nuts6

The controversy and misunderstanding in Proholovka is enough for me to make another nuts6

事实上这是一场规模有限的遭遇战,装甲部队、步兵、炮兵、空军等等都参与其中。如果将交战范围限于党卫军第2装甲军和苏军第5近卫坦克集团军活动的普罗霍罗夫卡附近

In fact, it was a limited encounters.Armored units, infantry, artillery, air force, and so on are involved.If the range of engagement, near Prokhorov. is limited to the activities of the SS 2nd Panzer Army and the Soviet Fifth Guards Tank army.

党卫军第2装甲军有294辆坦克和突击炮,其中15辆虎式坦克,没有豹式坦克或者费迪南坦克歼击车

The ss2nd Panzer had 294 tanks and sturmpanzers, of which 15 are Tiger tanks, with no Panther or Ferdinand tank destroyers。

苏军第5近卫坦克集团军部队编制上有951辆坦克和自行火炮,实际可用826辆,(463辆t-34、301辆t-70、丘吉尔25辆、以及37辆自行火炮)除去对抗第三装甲军的坦克,大约730多辆

The Soviet Army's 5th Guards Tank Army had 951 tanks and self-propelled artillery On the establishment,826 could join the battle(463t-34,301 t-70, Churchill 25, and 37 self-propelled artillery)Excluding tanks against the 3rdpanzer group, about 730

如果把战场范围缩小到警卫旗队师当面的中央战场,则双方只有不到500辆战车(警卫旗队师77辆,18、29坦克军403辆)参战,这个争议很大

If the battlefield is narrowed down to the central battlefield of the guard flag division, there will be fewer than 500 combat vehicles on both sides (77 for the LSSAH division and 403 for the 18、29 tank Group),It's a big controversy.

事实上,整个7月12日的战斗过程中,抛开可恶的政治。双方都在英勇的战斗,这值得肯定。尤其是劣势之中的苏军

Indeed, throughout the fighting on July 12, throw hateful politics . It is commendable that both sides are fighting bravely.Especially the Soviet Army in its inferiority.

但是,不管您是什么看法,我们必须承认,在7月12日的普罗霍洛夫卡,德军不是取得战术胜利而是完全的战术胜利!研究军事历史不能带入过多个人情绪

But whatever your opinion, we must admit that in Proholovka on July 12, the Germans won not a tactical victory but a complete tactical victory!The study of military history cannot bring too much personal emotion into it。

除了苏联在二战中的所谓“捷报”外(不是给斯大林看的),没有足够资料能够证明,这天的战斗拖垮了党卫军2军!

Apart from the Soviets' so-called "victory" in World War II(Not for Stalin).there is no evidence that the day of the battle dragged down the SS 2ndpanzer group!

虽然我不是保罗豪塞尔或者罗特米斯特洛夫,真实具体准确的数字我们无法得知,但党2当天彻底损失的坦克为14辆,加上需要回国返修的不过59辆,而苏军有270多辆被彻底击毁,这一天至少损失350辆坦克,甚至可能在5、600之间,

Although I'm not Paul Haussel or Rottmstrov.The total number of tanks Thorough loss that day was 14,only 59 Germantanks were both Thorough loss andneeded to be returned to the country for repairs. More than 270 of the Soviet army were completely destroyed, and at least 350 tanks were lost on the day, possibly in the range of 500 to 600.




如果真的是那么大的胜利,为何斯大林不立刻嘉奖罗特米斯特罗夫?还差点送他去卢比扬卡享受豪华一生游

If it was such a big victory, why didn't Stalin immediately reward Rottmstrov?And almost sent him to Lubyanka.Enjoy a luxurious tour!(Price; His life.)

对于德国的将军们来说,7月12日虽然非常紧张,但结果非常令人愉悦

To German generals,July 12 was very stressful, but the result was very pleasant

并且为什么德军会疯了一样在第二天制定三个疯狂的计划?难道德国的将军都是疯子?And why did the Germans go crazy making three crazy plans the next day? Are German generals crazy?


您可以说苏军在13日至17日粉碎南线德军进攻,但不是12日!

You can say that the Soviets smash down the German attack on the southern line from the 13th to 17th, but not on the 12th!

失败就是失败,成功就是成功,浮华的粉饰只会招来质疑,成为笑话,你本想让它变得更光鲜,但事实上反而令它更难看!

Failure is failure, success is success, flashy whitewash will only arouse doubt, become a joke。You want to make him looks like better, but it's actually worse.

而且其他关于普罗霍洛夫卡的问题太多,今天就不再继续扯淡了!

And there are so many other about Proholovka ,I don’t want to say too more bullshit today.

既然视频失败,放个专栏出来,减少损失!

本文来源:https://www.huangpucn.com/info/192571.html

标签组:[军事历史] [陆军] [二战德军] [莫德尔

相关APP下载

热门话题

军事推荐文章

军事热门文章